They’re At It Again. Of Course
I knew, as soon as I heard the name of the monster that decided to shoot up a bunch of GIs down in Texas, what I’d hear next. And boy, have I heard (er rather, I’ve SEEN) it all over the place today (spelling is left as I found it.)
And in the back of Hasan’s mind there is his holy Koran which tells true believers to kill the infidel (which is most of US). Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan is apparently a well schooled true believer.
Nidal Hasan that commited this act is a MUSLIM that was against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.This is the first of a lot of terrorist acts that are coming to the USA and done by AMERICAN MUSLIMS.The first allegiance of muslims is to ISLAM and not to the country that they live in.It has been shown in the bombing in London,Madrid and the riots in Paris.All those done by MUSLIMS born in those european countries but religion for them is stronger than patriotism.The USA is going to find itself between protecting its citizens and taking action against american muslims.In Islam there is no “love thy neighbor as you love thyself”.In the name of Islam ALL acts of violence,(which has been Islam’s behavior since its creation in the 7th century),are permited and in most cases applauded.
When you take the snake to your breast you should expect to get bitten. America needs an education on Islam to understand what they are dealing with. This fallecy that Islam is a religion of peace can be dispelled with very little study of the koran and history.
I’ve seen much worse than this, and of course FOX “News” has jumped right in, feeding this stupidity.
In an interview with US Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), Fox host Shepard Smith asked: “The names tells us a lot, does it not, senator?”
The white folks are all atwitter yet again. Them dirty brown Muslims are all one amorphous mass, determined to kill every good white Christian they can find. Never mind that this guy in Fort Hood was upset to the point of loopy over the prospect of being shipped out of the country-forget about all that. Never mind that by all appearances, he seems to have gotten loonier and loonier over the last few months (with blog postings that should certainly have attracted somebody’s attention, somewhere-for Dog’s sake, this guy is an Army major.) No, the problem here is that he’s a Muslim with a Muslim name. End of discussion. Islam demands that all of its followers kill whitey the infidels! It’s a religion of TURRISM!
When I see this bullshit, I am compelled to respond to it.
Was it a Muslim who shot up a Unitarian Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, training his guns on a childrens’ play going on in the front of the church?
Was it a Muslim who blasted Dr. George Tiller?
Was it a Muslim organization that planned and carried out the Oklahoma City attack?
Was it a Muslim who shot up the Holocaust Museum?
And last but not least (and by no means all,but I really don’t have time to chronicle even a small fraction of these violent acts) was it a Muslim that killed (at the very least) tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians, for no reason?
Why no, it wasn’t. As a matter of fact, the guy who has sent so many innocent Iraqis to their deaths is often hailed as a “good Christian man.” The murderer of Dr. Tiller sees himself the same way. The people who gave Tim McVeigh so much logistical support are from a movement known as CHRISTIAN Identity-and today, right now, their minions are big wheels in the “Minuteman” and “teabagger” movements.
Gosh, I guess Christianity isn’t a very peaceful religion, is it?
NO religion is “peaceful” if people are flocking to it to justify their hatreds, and we see that happening all too often with organized religion. The right wing “Christian” organizations in this country thrive on getting ill-educated, frightened people whipped up into a frightened frenzy by telling them that the dirty brown hordes aim to kill them all. The same thing happens overseas, but over there Osama and his imitators/kinsmen are whipping up the fears of a great WHITE horde coming to steal all their assets, kill all the men, rape all the women, and force the survivors to march under the cross.
I will say this again-religion is not the root problem here, it is a virulent symptom of a disease. The disease is hate. As a major contributor to the spread of hate, organized religion the world over is a cancer on humanity, and a major reason we haven’t been able to come together to work towards solving a lot of our problems. I have no more use for a Randall Terry or a Chimpy type “Christian” than I have for an Osama; to me, they are equally evil.
The “Fundamentalists” of the Middle Eastern-born religions are, inevitably, hellbent on practicing their religion the way their forefathers of hundreds of years ago did. Their forefathers, as we all know, burned witches, stoned people, sold their daughters, and intermarried to keep themselves “pure.” In a day and age when we should surely know better, why is it that we keep allowing ourselves to be dragged back to the 12th century?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I saw that last night going through some of the Freeper sites. I felt as if I was dirty reading some of the nastiness and vile rhetoric. Shortly after this the moderate Muslim groups came out with comments to disavow this violence. You mention in your post some of the more extreme Christianist type people. Has there ever been an instance where a Christian group comes out and disavows this stuff? I haven’t seen any, because they feel they never have to. We are the good white honest dog fearing Christians. Why does one group have to be any different than the other concerning this? I don’t know the answer I am just asking.
Today again, another multiple shooting in Florida by a deranged lunatic. Apparently he is Hispanic from the news reports. Now wait to see those self same groups that do not come and say this is wrong when it is one of the good Christians in society come out and say, well this is a result of…..(insert whatever insult here). As some of you have seen elsewhere, this week I have just had enough of all this hate and vitriol being directed at all the wrong people, and it disturbs me and moves me to tears.
I have no answers, other than to hope that people just start waking up, and realizing this is not the way to go about things in a civil society. While I have no doubt there are people that have true religious beliefs, it gets tiresome hearing it was all done in the name of (whatever deity) from all religious groups. Not one of them is any different than the others, with their extreme views of whose dog has the bigger (whatever in here).
November 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Sorry I’ve been away, JR. I’ve been ill.
As soon as I heard the name, I could sense the blood dripping from Rupert’s fangs.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
A-fucking-men Dude.JR, I shuddered when I heard his name. Tweety tried to do a little damage control this afternoon, bless his dumbass.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I think hate is also a symptom. Fear underlies the hate. That fear is sowed by powerful people as a means of control. It’s the same old divide and conquer strategy.
By the way, any douchebag who wants to hurt one of my Muslim/Naturalized American friends will get a chance to test their belief that we have the best health care system in the world.
As much as pain and prison scares me, I won’t stand by and allow innocents to be attacked.
It’s a sad commentary on how far we have sunk when a middle aged, depraved atheist like me is on the moral high ground.
Oh Brother Tim, where art thou?
We need you to remind us, with your gentle words, that there are still good shepards among the flock.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
You and me both, Jim. No fucking way will I stand by and watch the innocent get pummeled.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
As I suspected, you still fight for the underdog.
One of my fellow malcontents. There are so few here with me and Bee.
I may be down in VA, but I still know someone in OH is watching our back.
Do me a favor, try and keep an eye out for my friends in PA.
Gracias, Amigo.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
I have always been a malcontent. It costs me sometimes. Let me tell you a story….
Once upon a time, I supervised a complete flirt. She stuck her shorts-clad leg in my face, leaned close when I was showing her something…. you know the deal. She even did it in front of my wife, who was livid.
I was normally short and sarcastic with the girl; the way to get me to ease up on you is to do your job, not to flatter me. As it happens, we both had to go to corporate in San Francisco for an entire month. My wife was absolutely crazy-mad over the idea, but I told her there was nothing I could do about it (there wasn’t.)
We’d been there about a week. I had been in a meeting upstairs in the VP’s office, and was coming down the stairs and making a right turn to go to the ops room. To my right, with her back to the stairway, was the flirt. A programmer from South Africa that worked for us had her against the wall, and he was leaning closer. She looked at me with the deer in headlights plea in her eyes.
I walked up to them, told her that I had some things I needed to talk to her about before we headed out for the evening, and to meet me in a downstairs conf room. She slid away from Lothario and slinked off. I told Lothario that what he was doing wasn’t cool, or tolerable. He started to plead something about her, and I just cut him off-told him it didn’t really matter to me what she may have said before I walked up to them, because I saw what I saw, and I knew he knew she wasn’t liking the situation. Besides, I said, couldn’t you at least ask her to go someplace else? Who does sh*t like that at work?
She was so rattled I actually walked her back to the hotel that night. I reported all that to my wife, who was LIVID with me for awhile. As she came to know who I am better, she started understanding that I had to do what I did. It’s as much a part of me as one of my eyes is.
Yes, she still takes the occasional poke at me for it (as in, “the gallant knight had to save the slut who was after him!”) but she gets it now. And after that incident, Flirty never came onto me again either.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Jolly, you’re a good man
I listened about the shooting yesterday morning on NPR. They brought up a couple of points that are probably relevant. 1. he was a psychiatrist, and there are no comforts for the comforters, no treatments for the treaters. That is a situation that, obviously, must change. 2. He was devout muslim, and seems to have been unable to reconcile being shipped off to the middle east to go to war against people just like him – and what a sad situation that presents. It would be like if any of us were living in the middle east because our parents emigrated there, and were sent to American to kill our own. I can totally understand what set him off, why he was so very upset that he became completely unhinged. REally, though, odds are good that this guy was unhinged to begin with, just as the VA Tech shooter was unhinged to begin with. Just as the examples in your post were unhinged (although some of them egged on by outside influences).
NPR also talked about a group of doctors who attended a conference, some years ago, where Hasan gave a talk that supposedly they expected to be a medical paper, they say it ended up being a lecture about the Koran. How they dredged up that little anecdote so quickly, I don’t know. I suppose one of the attendees contacted them. NPR also mentioned reports that this guy was unmercifully harrassed by other service members because of his enthnicity and religion. Another possible stresser.
As usual, with the MSM, we don’t really yet know who this man was, or what his beliefs were, or how radical they became (or didn’t – there is that possiblity, too). We don’t know if maybe he had some serious chemical imbalances, or if he just cracked at the prospect of going to war against his own people, or the fear of coming back like the soldiers he treated.
So I’m a whole lot disgusted by the “lynch’em” sentiments being expressed by the right in some venues right now.