The right wing idiots have lived in their own world, with their own media, for so long now that they think they’re in the vanguard of some wildly popular new movement to take states out of the US. This is, of course, precisely the kind of world that their Presidential candidate chose to live in, which is why he wound up so stunned when he lost an election last week that most people outside the right wing bubble all but guaranteed he was going to lose. So, of course, the wingers have convinced themselves that people rigged the election to make sure of an Obama win (in places like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Florida, with obstructionist “voter fraud” Governors and Legislatures,) and since they got the election “stolen” from them, then by God they’ll just LEAVE!
Personally, that’d be fine with me: as we all know, the “Red” states are drains on the economies of the “Blue” states via Federal transfers to their territories. Plus, the water situation in the Southeast is going to become dire in a few years, which will require a massive expenditure in infrastructure, which I’d be glad to let them figure out for themselves, since they all think that Satan signs every tax increase. We’d certainly have to have a strong border presence, as they would be trying to flee the hellhole they’d surely create for themselves in a few years. We and the Mexicans both. It would serve them right, and I’m sure we could make initial arrangements for peoplke who didn’t want to live in a third-world theocratic hellhole to journey north before the border was sealed off.
But that’s just my personal opinion. I wanted to talk about the broader issue being raised. Do states actually have a right to secede, as the Klanbagging fringe insists? If all of them do not, what about Texas? Is it true that Texas left itself an “escape clause” after the Civil War?
The answer I found is not going to please the Dildoheads. This issue was actually addressed by the SCOTUS in 1869. The case was called Texas v. White. And this was the ruling.
Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) was a significant case argued before the United States Supreme Court in 1869. The case involved a claim by the Reconstruction government of Texas that United States bonds owned by Texas since 1850 had been illegally sold by the Confederate state legislature during the American Civil War. The state filed suit directly with the United States Supreme Court, which, under the United States Constitution, retains original jurisdiction on cases in which a state is a party.
In accepting original jurisdiction, the court ruled that Texas had remained a state ever since it first joined the Union, despite its joining the Confederate States of America and its being under military rule at the time of the decision in the case. In deciding the merits of the bond issue, the court further held that the Constitution did not permit states to unilaterally secede from the United States, and that the ordinances of secession, and all the acts of the legislatures within seceding states intended to give effect to such ordinances, were “absolutely null”.
That’s about as plain and simple as it gets. The SCOTUS ruled that NO State has the right to secede. Period. This argument was settled with the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans, and the result of that war was affirmed to be the law. I don’t know if today’s Supreme Koch would rule differently, but I seriously doubt that they would. This issue is a dead-end. The extremist fringe pushing it has the “choice” of colonizing some other place, but they aren’t going to do any seceding.
I understand the Bush family has extensive land holdings in Paraguay. Perhaps our idiot friends should talk to Boy George about accommodations.